Predator: The Hunted

   

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Even though the quality of the movies is outstanding (although AvP was somewhat disappointing in my opinion - and this is also reflected in the amount if bloopers listed), like most other movies they are not perfect.

Following here is a list of mistakes and bloopers, and also a list of interesting information regarding all of the Predator related movies.

   

P1 Mistakes  (bloopers, errors etc)
P1 Trivia  (movie info, facts, snippets)

P2 Mistakes  (bloopers, errors etc)
P2 Trivia  (movie info, facts, snippets)

AvP Mistakes  (bloopers, errors etc)
AvP Trivia  (movie info, facts, snippets)


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Bloopers: Predator

Continuity: Orientation of the scorpion when Mac crushes it with his boot.

Continuity: After removing his helmet, the Predator screams at Dutch. Seconds later, while chasing Dutch, the Predator roars at him, and the same footage of the Predator's screaming is used.

Continuity: In the final battle scene, before the Predator takes off his mask, Dutch can be seen leaning back against a tree; from the Predator's view, he is standing in the clearing, hunched over in a ready position.

Continuity: Dutch lights an explosive and tosses it back to the Predator. When it explodes, Dutch runs and jumps on a branch. In the first shot with the branch, it has a curved end. When Dutch grabs onto the branch in the next shot the branch has no curved end.

Audio/visual unsynchronised: When Anna hits Poncho and runs away, Dutch points and "whistles" at Hawkins ordering him to chase Anna. But when the whistling noise is heard, Dutch's mouth is closed.

Factual errors: After attempting to hit the Predator with the log, Dutch is thrown backwards at least five feet and barely fazed by a punch directly across his face. A blow of that strength, at that angle, would have sent him sideways and broken his neck.

Factual errors: When the commandos are shooting up the area where they think the Predator is, several rifles with 30 round magazines take nearly 15-20 seconds to empty, instead of the average 2.6 seconds they should take.

Revealing mistakes: After the predator shoots Blain through the chest and Mac rolls Blain over you can see the undershirt the the actor is wearing under the fake wound.

Revealing mistakes: Dillon's missing arm is visible tucked behind him.

Revealing mistakes: Springboard visible when Dillon is picked up by the Predator.

Incorrectly regarded as mistake: The object visible under the log while Mac and the major are hiding there, which looked like a microphone to some, has been identified as the ends of two guns.

Incorrectly regarded as mistake: Anna swings a branch at the right side of Poncho's head, but he turns before the impact, which is why he bleeds from the left.

Factual errors: When the Predator explodes, the film cuts to a shot inside the UH-60 Blackhawk that is in the area. From this viewpoint, one can clearly see a mushroom cloud. However, when the helicopter lands in this area, Dutch seems perfectly okay.
Joker's explanation: A mushroom cloud doesn't always mean a toxic nuclear explosion - this is alien technology. And Dutch managed to dive into a small ravine before detonation.

Submitted by Eric Hlad - Revealing mistake: In the scene where Dutch slides down the hill, you can plainly see the rolling board thingy under him before he sails into the water.

Submitted by Ray Chandler - Continuity: As Arnie and his boys are taking out the guerrilla camp, we see Poncho duck behind a tree to fire his grenade launcher. The trunk of the tree has been shot up. About 10 seconds or so (give or take), we see Poncho run up to duck behind the tree (the same one), and then it is shot at.

Submitted by DJ, Netherlands - Factual errors: First of all, great site. But I got a mistake from the first movie, well, at least I think so. When the Predator shoots Mac from pointblank range underneath the tree, shouldn't his head be toasted like a crisp? When Dillon goes to take a look, his head looks just fine. Is this incorrect or am I missing something?
Joker's explanation: Well presumably, Mac wouldn't have much left of the back of his skull. And if I remember right, you couldn't see much of his forehead either. As far as I can tell, Preds can set the intensity of their Plasma Cannons, and there was no need to hit him with full power... just enough to de-brain him. Poor ol' Mac.

Submitted by Tiago: Hi there, my name is Tiago and I'm from Portugal. First off, i must say it's an awesome page you got there and I read it from top to bottom, as i'm a avid Predator fan. when i was a kids all i thought was being able to use "Ol' painless" and shoot the shit out of something. Ah, childhood... I could fairly say i've seen the first movie over 100 times and it never gets dull to me, the shooting parts are some of the most exciting action sequences ever. So, here's my contribution to the Mistakes/Bloopers section; Take it easy and keep up the good work.
Continuity: Right after the shooting part, when the team is heading out to the valley, there's a sequence with Billy crounching on a rock covered by some leaves and as he gets up we can see he's only holding a regular M16A2 rifle. On the immediate sequence he's walking and just as he turns back we see he's holding the M16A2 with the KAC Masterkey shotgun.
Factual errors: When Blain is killed, he is shot from the back and his chest bursts open from the plasma bolt. However when he falls down it is clear his ammo backpack is intact, since Mac uses it without any problem on the following shoot out. To my understanding, if he was shot with a bolt that perforated his body from the back side, shouldn't the ammo backpack have become damaged, or at least show a big hole?

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Bloopers: Predator 2

Continuity: In Predator when the predator removes his mask, his vision changes from the normal blue background-thermal standout view to a very hazy all-red view spectrum. However, in Predator 2, the vision remains the same with or without the mask.
LYuanh's explanation (thanx for contributing!): Predator's vision changed in the first film because the "high-tech" mask filtered most of the infrared waves, creating a clearer view. In other words, Predators see infrared emitted by warm surroundings, such as the tropical rainforest. The vision without the mask didn't change much in the second film because he was in a meat storage house - being kept cool and emitting little infrared, his vision didn't change much with or without the mask.

Continuity: When King Willie is killed, there is a large splash (and subsequent smaller splashes indicating footsteps) when the predator jumps into the large puddle. However, in the first shot, there is no visible "shimmer effect" from the predator's invisibility cloak during the footstep splashes.

Continuity: When Peter Keyes is cut in half by the predator's Disc weapon, his lower half falls to the ground, while the upper part of his torso apparently remains in the air.

Continuity: When the Pred storms the train, the Pred continuously changes from cloaked, to de-cloaked, to cloaked. And during his whole time IN the train, it looks like the same footage of him ON TOP of the train.
Submitted by Ray Chandler (thanx for contributing!)

Plot holes: Considering that a Predator in the first film managed to take out almost an entire elite commando force armed with advanced weapons, it seems unlikely that they would have found much sport in the 18th century from which the gun in the final scene derives. Especially as the Predator refuses, in the first film, to attack someone who was unarmed.
Joker's explanation: Predators are drawn by heat and conflict, which happens at any time in human history. As for unarmed opponents - I thought that a gun, 18th century or otherwise, was a weapon... 

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Bloopers: Alien vs Predator

Plot holes: The gestation period for the aliens in AvP Seems MUCH shorter than in the other alien films.
Submitted by Dominic Davis (thanx for contributing!)
Explanation: Apparently this problem has been explained in the Director's Cut. In this extended version, a movie shot (or shots) show that the Queen is being injected with some kind of steroid or growth hormone, which decreases the gestation period dramatically. Shame they can't explain away a lot of other mistakes and plot holes!

Factual errors: The penguins in the whaling station near the beginning of the film are humboldt penguins, native to South America, not Antarctica.
Submitted by Dominic D. (thanx for contributing!)

Continuity: Alexa's 'warrior' marking on her left cheek disappears in overhead shots.

Continuity: When Alexa and the Predator are running from the explosion, across the whaling station, her 'shield' changes hands.

Factual errors: The full moon for October 2004 would be on the 28th, not the 10th.

Continuity: The large pulley and winch setup for lowering equipment and people down the ice tunnel completely disappears when the equipment sled comes rocketing back out. If it was in place, the sled would have slammed right into it.

Factual errors: Icebreakers have round prows, not angled ones.

Continuity: The film gives confusing and inconsistent accounts of the geology of the area around the pyramid. It is supposedly buried under 2,000 feet of ice on an island, yet the pure-ice tunnel leading down to it begins at sea-level (as proved by the existence of the whaling station at the upper end). The whaling station is thus supposedly built on ice instead of rock; this is a ludicrous proposition as it would only be constructed in a region where ice melted enough each summer to allow whaling ships to dock. Anything built on ice that thaws significantly each year would not last 100 years. This arrangement also places the pyramid and a large amount of ice below sea-level; the buoyancy and natural flow of the ice pack makes this highly unlikely and not is not something that could be accurately described as an island in the first place. Further confusion is caused by the scene at the end of the film in which a large tank falls into the water and plunges hundreds of feet towards an unseen ocean floor, supposedly directly offshore.

Factual errors: The story is set in October (summertime in Antarctica). It should therefore be daylight on the surface, and yet it's dark as night.

Continuity: The second Predator is killed by an Alien when his head is punctured by the Alien's inner mouth. When the shot changes and the Predator tilts his head back there is no wound.

Factual errors: Alexa is wearing only a thin sweater (and no hat) after the Alien burns her jacket, yet she doesn't even shiver while outdoors in Antarctica.
Isaiah K's explanation (thanx for contributing!): She was just chased by things that ranged from 3 to about 12 or 10 feet (depending on what sized alien queen you think it was) taller than her and could kill her at any moment. That would get my blood pumping enough to the point where I could be naked and I wouldn't notice for about 10 minutes. Then not to mention what the elder 'Predators' where going to do to her. So answer in short: she wouldn't notice for a while because of all the stuff that's just happened. Plus since it's their Summer for the area, so it's not below 0 near but not 0 or below.

Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Despite detailed satellite imagery of the pyramid, the expedition is surprised to find a whaling station at their intended drilling site. They must have missed this, as well as the large ship-worth bay it was undoubtedly located on: despite their haste, they choose a more remote anchorage that required a land journey over some significant elevation.

Factual errors: Sebastian refers to "the Long Count" while describing a calendar that he refers to as "Aztec". The Long Count was a feature of the Mayan calendar system; the Aztec calendar, although based on the Mayan, didn't use the Long Count.

Errors in geography: It is said by one of the team that the whaling station is directly above the pyramid. However a geographical survey (as well as the obvious in-story shots) show that the ice tunnel slopes gently down towards the pyramid entrance, therefore not on top at all.

Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Graeme Miller's description of the aurorae as being caused by protons and electrons in the atmosphere is inaccurate. The aurorae are caused by the interaction of oxygen ions with oxygen molecules in the ionosphere, leading to chemiluminescene. However, as a chemical engineer, his knowledge of atmospheric photochemistry may be expected to be somewhat rusty.

Continuity: When Alexa Woods is climbing the Lho La ice fall in Nepal, she's about 10 body-lengths from the top edge. From the moment she answers the phone she reaches the top in about six steps. You can't take steps longer then your body.

Continuity: When Alexa is climbing the Lho La ice fall in Nepal, you can see a overview of the edge where is climbing to. There is nowhere a helicopter too be seen, yet after 30 second (duration of the phone call) the helicopter manages to land, turn off the engine (spinning down rotors takes much more than 30 seconds), and let Maxwell Stafford out of the helicopter and walk towards the edge to meet Alexa.

Revealing mistakes: During the first battle, when the Alien falls to the ground after the Predator kicks it through a pillar, a wire can be seen holding its tail up.

Revealing mistakes: When the first-killed Predator is thrown to the ground, its extended wrist blades bend when they hit the ground, revealing that they are actually made of rubber.

Plot holes: The characters correctly predict that the walls will move every 10 minutes, because the Aztec did everything in multiples of 10. However, the Aztec would not have known how long a minute is.

Continuity: When Alexa and the Predator are shooting up the tunnel, she isn't wearing the Alien head on her hand. She is clearly holding on with both hands. As they are thrown on the surface, the head reappears.

Continuity: The Predator cuts off the tip of the Alien's tail, spewing green acidic blood, and then tosses him through a column and into another room. As the Alien flies in slow motion, you can see that there is no blood on his stump, but immediately after, it's covered again.

Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Sebastian erroneously says that the Aztec calendar was metric (based on 10). It was in fact vigesimal (based on 20) with twenty days in 18 "months".

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Trivia: Predator

Upon hearing some joking comment (since Sylvester Stallone had vanquished many an opponent in the ring, Stallone was thinking about Rocky Balboa take on a challenger from another world), brothers Jim and John Thomas decided to pen the screenplay.

"Predator" was originally titled "Hunter" but the title was scrapped to avoid confusion with the Fred Dreyer cop series of the same name.

The original script treatment of "Predator" had the alien as a formless being who could control the thoughts and actions of other animals. However, due to technological restraints, the idea was scrapped - although it lives on in the film's novelisation.

The gruelling shoot, undertaken in the tropical forests of Mexico near to Puerto Vallarta, was interrupted by Arnie's marriage to Maria Schriver.

John McTiernan was keen to make the comrade banter between the soldiers as real as possible. To help this along, the cast trained together on location with weapons, fitness and military training regime that started at 6am every morning and included the use of communication with the silent, military hand signals that we see so much in the movie. He stated that "even though many of the cast had military backgrounds" he "wanted them all to get a chance to know each other, develop as a group and endure something rough and conquer it together."

In 1987, Jean-Claude Van Damme landed the gig as the monster in Predator but it quickly went sour when he incurred the legendary wrath of 'Uberproducer' Joel Silver. By Van Damme's account, Silver fired him because he dared to speak out about a stunt that would have been unsafe in the cumbersome creature suit. True to Van Damme's screen form, he wraps up the episode of revenge-fantasy catharsis: another actor was brought in to do the stunt and busted his ankle, after which the costume was redesigned. ("That's obviously Jean-Claude making up stories," a spokesman for Silver Pictures said bemusedly, insisting there were no injuries, no safety lapses and only mininal "uncomfortableness" with the suit.)

The actor who did end up playing the Predator was Kevin Peter Hall, the same tall guy who played Harry, in Harry and the Hendersons. He also had previously portrayed an alien on safari for human quarry in the low-budgeted Without Warning. Kevin actually appears at the end of Predator, after the self-destruction and the helicopter comes to view - he is the black man who says "what the...?". Sadly, Kevin Peter Hall passed away in 1991 from an AIDS related illness. Rest in peace, Kev.

The designer of the titular terror, Stan Winston, was one day talking with filmmaker and frequent co-worker James Cameron about his challenge of crafting the extraterrestrial. Cameron suggested that maybe Winston should consider devising the mouth in a different fashion.

Shane Black, the writer of the Joel Silver action flick "Lethal Weapon" portrays one of Schwarzenegger's commandos.

Bill Duke, previously portrayed one of Schwarzenegger's foes in another Silver movie, "Commando".

Sonny Landham had a career in 'adult' movies in the 1970s, appearing in such classics as "Barbara Broadcast" and "The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann". "Predator" was only his third mainstream film appearance.

Stunt director Craig Baxley would make his debut as a fearure-film director with the Carl Weathers vehicle "Action Jackson," also produced by "Predator" producer Silver. Weathers' "Predator" co-stars Bill Duke and Sonny Landham also appeared in the film.

The cloaking effect that the predator alien uses was originally a happy mistake while testing various ideas. However, the result was liked, and it was kept, and even used in other movies.

It is alleged that in the early 90's, the USA's Dept. of Defense tested a form of camoflauge that used millions of fiber-optic cables to "mirror" the opposite side of the object that is wanting to be hidden. They got the idea from the movie. The idea behind the camoflage was not to appear invisible, but to replicate what is on the opposite side. In the DoD's test footage, when you look at the person wearing the fiber-optic sheet, they simply appear to look like a heat wave.

Jesse Ventura, the former professional wrestler and (nationally controversial!) current governor of Minnesota, played 'Blain', who carries the minigun. His line "I Ain't Got Time to Bleed" was recently used as the title of a book he wrote about his trouble with the media as governor. While doing the political "meet-the-people" thing, he has been known to (tongue-in-cheek) tell people alternately: the reason the directors had the Predator kill him off was to make people realize that Arnold was in real danger (since the Predator was tough enough to kill Blain, who was tougher than Dutch); or that there was an alternate ending to the film where Blain kills the Predator, but the movie was too short that way!

About that infamous minigun, a General Electric M-134 (normally mounted on a helicopter, and not suitable for handheld use). The first time Jesse tried to fire it he was nearly hurt (severely) as the expended brass was ejected upward, and hit him in the chest. Afterwards, he wore body armor and they rebuilt the "Furniture" (the grips used to hold the weapon) so that the weapon ejected downward. The weapon was also firing at such a rate, that even with blanks, the recoil was so great that they needed to reduce the rate of fire even further than the usual half rate of 3000 Rounds Per Minute (it usually fires at a rate of 6000 RPM - 100 rounds PER SECOND!). Of course, the M-134, or any RBC (Rotary Barrel Cannons sometimes called "Mini guns") are not hand fired weapons. At full fire rate, they would tip an ATV over, and light trucks move under the recoil. And yes, the barrels truly do whistle when the weapon runs dry.

The Predator set at Puerto Vallarta is now a tourist attraction. It's about a half hour drive from downtown Puerto Vallarta on Hwy 200 to the turn off (a place called El Eden, just past Mismaloya Beach). Another 15 minute drive into the jungle and you can still see stuff from the movie, including one of the destroyed helicopters.

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Trivia: Predator 2

The skull of a creature that resembles the ones in Alien and Aliens is on the wall in the Predator's trophy room, which spawned rumors that an "Alien vs. Predator" film was in the works.

Bill Paxton previously starred in Aliens and has been killed or assaulted in some way by an Alien, a Predator and a Terminator.

The spear weapon that was used in the film disappeared and was reported as stolen after filming was completed.

The plot underwent a few changes in its earliest stages. The Gary Busey's character, Keyes, was actually intended to be Dutch, Arnold Schwarzenegger's character from the first film. Schwarzenegger was very outspoken against the script, feeling that taking it into the city was a bad idea, and declined the role.

The last name of the character "Danny" (Rubén Blades) is "Archuleta". J. Tom Archuleta was the second assistant director of both this movie and Predator.

When the Predator is treating his injuries in the bathroom of the apartment Alex Trebek the host of Jeopardy! can be heard giving the final jeopardy "answer": "Berengaria, who never set foot in England was its queen for eight years after marrying this king on Cyprus?" The "question", in case you're interested, is, "Who is Richard I?"

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Trivia: Alien vs Predator

Was rumored to be in development ever since a skull from the title characters in the Alien film series appeared in the spaceship trophy room in Predator 2.

Except for scenes with stand-ins, Ian Whyte played all of the Predators.

The theatrical trailer includes soundbyte samples from the original trailer for Alien and Bret (Harry Dean Stanton) screaming

A title near the beginning of the film identifies the ice cutter transporting the exploration team as "The Piper Maru". The ship's name comes from episode 3.15 of The X Files. That episode was named after Gillian Anderson's daughter.

AVP had both the shortest filming & post-production schedules of any "major studio" film in 2004, filming was given 2 1/2 months while post-production was given just 4 months to complete.

When Charles Bishop Weyland is sitting in his office on the ship, we can very briefly see him playing with his pen in a similar manner to the way the android Bishop (also played by Lance Henriksen) is playing with a knife in Aliens.

When one of the explorers is searching the whaling compound and walks past a door to a building, there is a shot from within the building in which the red light from the guy's flare comes through the crack in the door to form a flat vertical beam that's picked up by the dust/snow from inside the room, just like the blue-green scanner from the salvage scene at the beginning of Aliens.

At one stage Peter Weller was attached to do a cameo as John Yutani, the other half of the infamous "Weyland-Yutani" Company from the "Alien" films. Gary Busey was also approached to play Yutani.

This is the first Alien film, and also the first Predator film, to get a rating other than R.

The character of Verheiden was named after comic book writer Mark Verheiden, creator of the first Aliens vs Predator comic series and first story ever involving both species. It was released prior to the infamous alien "skull" in Predator 2, contrary to popular belief.

The drawings that Paul W.S. Anderson used for his original presentation to 20th Century Fox were done by Patrick Tatopoulos.

First Predator movie to feature a left-handed predator.

The scene in which Weyland's team discovers the sacrificial chamber inside the pyramid was originally longer than seen in the theatrical cut. After Rousseau and Thomas discuss the hole in the corpse's chest, Sebastian finds a calcified facehugger. Lex and Sebastian then theorize as to what the creature's origin could be.

After the opening credits are shown, SFX designers Tom Woodruff Jr. and Alec Gillis have brief cameos as technicians who discover the heat bloom coming from the pyramid.

Paul W.S. Anderson rewarded hardcore Alien and Predator fans by scattering references to the individual franchises with his film. The opening shot of the movie is a silhouette of the Alien Queen from Aliens, before being completely revealed as a Weyland Satellite.

The altars where victims were placed in the Chamber of Sacrifices of the pyramid is arranged exactly the same as the hibernation pods in the original Alien movie.

The black and white movie playing in the beginning of the film is another popular monster face-off, Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man.

The heroine calling an Alien an "ugly mother..." is a reference to the two previous Predator films, in which both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Glover refer to the Predators as such.

At the beginning of the film in the satellite control station, the technician has a "drinky drinky" bird among the Tweety Pie dolls. These are the same birds that were seen on the dining room table in Alien, and also in the abandoned prison canteen at the end of Alien3.

The read out of the predator ship at the beginning of the film, is shown reflected in the visor of the predator mask, as the readouts of the Nostromo in Alien were reflected on the space helmets.

The shot of the team approaching the top of the pyramid, with their flashlights, taken from inside it references the shot of the of the Nostromo's expedition team walking up to the entrance of the derelict.

The design in the center of the floor in the sacrificial chamber is almost identical to the artwork of the Alien3 poster.

The words "alien" and "predator" are never said in this movie. Aliens are called "things", "creatures" and "serpents". Predators are referred to as "hunters".

Around the time of the film's release, it was reported that at a special industry screening director Paul W.S. Anderson said that the film was always planned as an R-rated movie and shot that way, but only three weeks prior to release the studio changed that by severely cutting the film for a lower PG-13 rating. This account has been heavily disputed by original "AVP" writer Peter Briggs. It was later revealed that this "press-screening" never took place, and was only an internet rumor started by fans. Anderson has claimed in interviews that the film seen in theaters is the version he intended audiences to see.

When Lex asks Sebastian how to say "scared shitless" in Italian, he replies "Non vedo l'ora di uscire da questa piramide con te, perche mi sto cagando addosso." Translated, this literally means "I can't wait to get out of this pyramid with you, because I'm shitting myself."

The green glow stick dropped down the shaft contains the fluorescent liquid used by the effects departments of all the Predator movies as the Predators' blood. According to director John McTiernan, on Predator they stumbled on the effect after unconvincing attempts to make the blood look orange forced the crew to look for alternatives.

In the official "AvP" theatrical trailer, there's a brief shot of the prison planet Fury 161 from Alien.

The Morse code picked up by the satellite at the beginning of the film spells out the words, "Whoever wins, we lose". This is, of course, the tagline used to promote the film.

In an interview, director Paul W.S. Anderson said that Arnold Schwarzenegger offered to reprise his role as Dutch Schaeffer (from Predator) at the end of this movie as a cameo, but only on the condition if he lost the election for Governor of California.

At Amalgamated Dynamics Incorporated, the workshop crew nicknamed the 3 Predator characters Scar (main Predator), Celtic, and Chopper.

There's a shot where the heroine pulls her self up a cliff. It's filmed exactly like the shot in Alien where Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) does the same, looking for the Alien. In both shots the characters are sweating heavily and one of their hands in front of their faces can be seen.

When Celtic and Grid are fighting Celtic has his backpack on, but later in the fight he is seen with out it. Submitted by Mario C. (thanx for contributing!)

The scientists use a surveying instrument to tell the angle and how far to the end of the tunnel made by the Predator ship. However, (and this is coming from someone with three years of experience and a family that surveying runs through) the instrument they're using (which I believe is a Topcon painted over) requires a prism on the other end to take a shot, therefore, the instrument is useless without a prism rod being at the end of the tunnel to take the shot. Submitted by Aaron 'Ash' E. (thanx for contributing!)

The animatronic Queen was controlled by a motion-control rig which could save her movements digitally. So, if the Queen made a nice looking move in rehearsal, the move could be replayed verbatim in front of the camera.

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